Do you need to use M2C-134A exactly or will anything else work - Ford 1700 (2024)

Jun 2, 2013 / Do you need to use M2C-134A exactly or will anything else work - Ford 1700

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    Hi All,

    My hydraulic fluid is pretty low - is it typical to "lose" fluid over time, does it kindof cook away? (this 1983 Ford 1700 is new to me so I don't know it intimately yet). Anyhow, manual calls for M2C-134A and Tractor Supply doesn't have it. Can't find any on eBay...

    Thoughts?

    Thank you!

    Jay

    Jun 2, 2013 / Do you need to use M2C-134A exactly or will anything else work - Ford 1700

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      Most quality transhydraulic fluids will meet the Ford Spec M2c-134A and I believe the latest is M2c-134D and is backward compatible. Read the label on the container.
      The fluid disn't "cook off";it leaks out and it also colllects water via condensation espeicially if you don't use it often and/or operate for long periods of time to cause it to get warm and evaporate off the condensation.

      Jun 2, 2013 / Do you need to use M2C-134A exactly or will anything else work - Ford 1700

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        I have used Mystick brand from TSC for the last 7 years in my Ford 1700. I did not find any ill effect as the result. Dipstick inspection of the after 250 hrs looks pretty good.

        JC,

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          Thanks all. TSC I would assume is Tractor Supply...?

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            jpilk99 said:

            Thanks all. TSC I would assume is Tractor Supply...?

            Yes. Make sure to read the back of the container to verify it meets M2C-134A.

            JC,

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              Remember that the last letter is a revision. That means that 134b meets 134a specs. A lot of the generic UTF's that I have seen are 134b or 134c which is fine for you.

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                i know i've used tsc and walmart UTF's for years now. never a problem.

                DO read the label. etc.

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                  Phillips PowerTran Fluid is available in two viscosity grades for use over a wide range of temperatures. The heavier viscosity grade is suitable for year-round use in most climates, whereas the “Low Viscosity” grade is recommended for use in cold climates where a John Deere J20D fluid is specified.
                  Do a Google search for Phillips PowerTran Fluid in a pdf file and the info. will really help you .

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                      mostly_gas said:

                      Remember that the last letter is a revision. That means that 134b meets 134a specs. A lot of the generic UTF's that I have seen are 134b or 134c which is fine for you.

                      Hi. I'm going back to do some Maintenance/Service on my wonderful 1983 Ford 1700 and find myself back to being curious about "Hydraulic System Oil" that the manual talks about. It certainly says I should get the M2C-134(x) ...which I am not finding, where the "x" is either A, B, C, D etc. and knowing they're backwards compatible. But the manual also says, "Should the recommended engine oil not be readily available, use a commercial oil as shown in the following chart" and that chart goes on to list SAE 10W30, 10W40 for Year Around. Or SAE 10W... and a few other options given the temperatures outside...

                      But my question/concern is: I am planning to do as much maintenance as possible - and going to work on the front differential, front axle, rear axle etc... So can I just put SAE 10W30 in all those places? Because it looks like the M2C-134A is what they say to use in them...?

                      Thanks. Hope i'm not being overly exacting here - just don't want to hurt my machine. Thanks!

                      Do you need to use M2C-134A exactly or will anything else work - Ford 1700 (2024)

                      FAQs

                      What is the oil equivalent to M2C134D? ›

                      Our other choice is "Universal Tractor Hydraulic Fluid". This is a pig of a different grunt. It is a 10W20 oil (much thinner, and multigrade) which is "recommended" for use in place of the Ford M2C134D, as well as a whole list of other manufacturers specifications.

                      What type of hydraulic oil does a Ford tractor use? ›

                      use C type hydraulic oil.

                      What hydraulic oil is equivalent to? ›

                      "It is a common practice in the construction and mining industries to use engine oil SAE 10, SAE 20 or SAE 30 with the lowest API rating as a substitute for hydraulic oil ISO 32, ISO 46 or ISO 68, respectively for hydraulic systems of heavy equipment.

                      What is the closest oil to 0w20? ›

                      If SAE 0W-20 synthetic oil is not available, SAE 5W-20 conventional oil may be used.

                      What's the difference between hydraulic oil and regular motor oil? ›

                      Modern hydraulic oils are not formulated to work effectively as an engine oil as they do not have the appropriate properties to lubricate and protect engine components. They also possess a lower flash point, which means that they are likelier to ignite, leading to engine damage, accidents and injuries.

                      Is hydraulic oil the same as Transmission Oil? ›

                      Transmission oil is a type of hydraulic oil! It a medium that transmits power from the engine to the transmission. Meanwhile, other types of hydraulic fluid includes multigrade engine oil, conventional and antiwear hydraulic oil.

                      How do I know what hydraulic oil to use? ›

                      To choose the right fluid viscosity grade for your particular system, you will need to consider:
                      1. starting viscosity at minimum ambient temperature.
                      2. maximum expected operating temperature, which is influenced by maximum ambient temperature.
                      3. permissible and optimum viscosity range for the system's components.

                      What is equivalent to air compressor oil? ›

                      Hydraulic oil: Hydraulic oil possesses multiple qualities that make it an acceptable substitute for air compressor oils. It has a lower viscosity in colder temperatures, which means it can flow more freely given its low density. For this reason, hydraulic oil works best when temperatures are lower.

                      Can I substitute 15W40 for 10w30? ›

                      In hot climates, where engines can reach high temperatures, 15W40 oil's superior high-temperature protection would be advantageous. Conversely, in cold climates, 10W30 oil's improved cold-start performance would be beneficial.

                      What is Kubota Super UDT fluid? ›

                      The Kubota UDT and Super UDT are multi-purpose, all-weather hydraulic types of engine oil. They present a perfect solution for your Kubota model, especially if you don't want to worry too much about tractor maintenance since they do the heavy lifting.

                      What oil is equivalent to chainsaw oil? ›

                      Regular motor oil is a good substitute for your chainsaw guide bar and chain oil. It has a very high flash point and a perfect viscosity. Clean engine oil for your car lubricates the bar and chain faster than the conventional chainsaw chain and bar recommended oil.

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